While away at Combat Team Tactics (CTT) this past weekend, I noticed what I considered to be a disconcerting thread on Facebook. Greg Ellifritz, who runs Active Response Training, had posted an article from another site (Adaptive Defense Concepts):
It had the following photo accompanying it (I’m biting my tongue):
Now, there is nothing wrong with Greg, and nothing so much wrong with the actual article, other than it is a lot of square-range-centric-tacticool-carbine-class-lack-of-operational-experience-thinking. What shocked me was the comments by others on Greg’s FaceBook post.
In short, it was one helluva lot of normalcy bias and ‘civilians don’t need more than one magazine, and probably don’t need a carbine either’….
If I wanted to play dress up I would shoot cowboy action.
It seems its mostly handy to have a chest rig at a class for portable storage purposes. Sweet-spot ammo retrieval, then (“feed the beast”/resupply the sweet spot) as required when required.
I think for a civilian… If you ever have to reload a carbine in a fight.. Your gonna have your 15 min of fame on CNN…
I think if you reload a carbine as a civilian in a self defense scenario either you can’t shoot and the other guy is a moron or you had plenty of time to evade.
The idea that you’ll be facing off against a bunch of Blue Helmets in an offensive firefight Lexington and Concord style is a bit of a Walter Mitty fantasy. The likelihood you’ll be using a rifle in ANY defensive scenario is pretty unlikely. You have to keep in mind though, there are a lot of people who own ARs now in the post Sandy Hook Gun Culture 2.0. They want to DO something with those rifles. Let’s be honest, training for practical 25m or less indoor defensive scenarios with a rifle is not nearly as fun as running around in a plate carrier blasting away at “tangoes”.
Some people will scratch that itch by going into 3-gun or other shooting competition. The ones who don’t really like competing or running around and shooting against a clock will opt for engaging in one of the many “tactical band camp” carbine courses available almost everywhere these days taught by just about anyone who has ever collected a DOD paycheck. While most do teach some useful skills for someone operating in a combat zone, the civilian applicability is pretty limited. As long as people keep it in perspective that such training is primarily entertainment (shooting is FUN, duh), I see no real problem with that.
Anyway, my take on this, I’ve used a chest rig in a class. It was helpful, but even then, I was still dragging a 3 day pack of mags along. We were frequently out at the 150yd line doing close work. I would load my mags in the motel room the night before, and reload them when we had classroom time. I used the pockets of my cargo pants in one class. It was ok, but yeah, constantly hunting for mags.
In the real world, a redi-mag on the gun would be ideal. For training, a chest rig and something like a GCode belt pouch. After that mag is used, reload the pouch from the chest rig. Being only 5’8″, I prefer something that only holds about 4 mags. The dump pouch mentioned, isn’t a bad idea. This depends somewhat on the class to.
I got rid of my chest rig.
It was great if you we doing a 3-day patrol in the Korengal Valley, but pretty impractical for civilian use.
I have a discreet carry bag that has in it my rifle and 2 HSGI tacos on an RCS moduloader that I cab quickly slap on my belt.
It all depends on what you’re doing. Carbine class? Belt pouch and one or two mags in back pockets.
Well, that is just one huge bunch of normalcy bias, assumption, ignorance and belief that someone else will always be around to save your ass. It also explains why we don’t see these guys at MVT classes, because clearly their idea of a ‘carbine class’ looks a little like the photo above, and involves mainly standing in front of a target at close range doing pew pew drills. This is the problem we face in attempting to wake people up to the need for real tactical training.
They won’t need it, of course, and anyone who thinks they will is a Walter Mitty wing nut fantasist waiting for the blue helmets to arrive, and their 15 minutes of fame on CNN…..
Now, I recently wrote an article titled ‘Ballistic Plates: Yes or No?‘ In that article I discussed the lack of knowledge of what a collapse may look like, and the potential for a period, however long, of a ‘slide’ or ‘gray collapse.’ You may not immediately be shooting at blue helmeted reptilians while wearing your multicammies. You may be carrying concealed with some gear in your vehicle or at home, such as a rifle and chest rig and/or plates.
But to believe that things can never go past the need for a carbine and perhaps another mag in a back pocket is…well, it’s just……well….normalcy bias.
It can never happen here, right? Someone else will always be around to save your ass, right?
I commented on the FB thread and said I was going to write a post about this. Well, Mosby beat me to it and already did, and the link is below. It is well worth the read. He says what I wanted to say. He mentions the whole FB comment thing in the article: