Inevitably, and positively, after my post yesterday ‘Changes to MVT Class Attendance Prerequisites‘ I have started to see some rescheduling from Combat Rifle / Contact Drills (CRCD) to the Combat Rifle Manipulation (CRM) class. Where spaces have freed up from previously full classes, I have annotated spaces available on the Class Schedule.
There are plenty of CRCD alumni who would benefit from ‘going back’ and doing the CRM class, in the same way that many have benefited from multiple CRCD classes.
You can’t get enough of the right training.
Get it right, and avoid having to train out those training scars.
A couple of good comments from the previous post:
Just got back from CRCD, RMP, TC3 and NODF. Have a fair bit of training under my belt and RMP was handy. Don’t ASSume that since you’ve been to one shooting class with a local guy that your skills are where they should be. Seeing what I saw this weekend I told Max and Aaron that if it were me, I would definitely make CRM a pre req to CRCD. It certainly would have helped about half the class get more out of the instruction in my opinion.
Safety is the big thing and don’t assume that running around in the back 40 with a couple friends trying to do techniques you were never given professional instruction on is the same thing as getting professional instruction- folks it is NOT the same thing.
For those that have been training as I have- understand there is a LOT you can get out of these classes, most especially with an open mind. I drove 12 hours and will do it again as soon as possible.
All in all great classes and worth the drive, time and money.
Snowflake 1 out.
I also am an Appleseed instructor and Appleseed experience will help some with rifle manipulation but that might also depend on what rifle is used during an Appleseed experience. I haven’t seen too many AR15 platforms(w/ 5.56) used at AS events. And the mag changes are timed but don’t utilize magazines removed from pouches on the body…they are laying on a shooting mat. As far as clearing malfunctions on your rifle I don’t think operating your 10-22 on a mat translates to running an AR on your belly, in the WV mud….while trying to coordinate movement with your buddy . Of course maybe you are a vet and have run a M4 or such. In summary I believe that the additional classes Max now offers at his place will both make the CRCD more beneficial.
Max’s second point is PT……..we all can do more PT. And wear your kit as often as you can!
Here is the new class prerequisite training policy:
1) RMP will remain optional but strongly encouraged prior to CRCD classes, even for alumni. We all need refresher training, as much as we can get.
2) CRM will be mandatory as a prerequisite to CRCD classes, unless:
3) If, despite these prerequisites, you are able to bluff your way onto a class, and the remedial training/individual attention required to get you up to speed will affect the training experience of the rest of the class to an unacceptable level, MVT reserves the right to stand you down from the class. We haven’t done it yet, but with these new policies there isn’t really any excuse. One of the main problems we have is with students who have training scars from bad schools or self-training. RMP helps with this, but CRM helps a lot more.
For those inquiring about the validity of their 16 hours equivalency training, please email me with the details.
Remember: MVT classes are not about ego, either from the instructors or the students. Be honest with your capabilities and realize that you don’t know what you don’t know. This system is designed and evolving to be a training progression to give you the maximum benefit and training value. It is a skill and knowledge transfer. Ego is the biggest impediment to the successful training of the armed civilian. Leave the ego in the parking lot, and come to learn (why do you think I made the parking lot bigger? To fit in all the egos!) 😉
EDIT 24 June, following a question: Yes, CRCD Alumni qualify for the 16 hours training prerequisite. However, take an honest look at yourself and consider the following before attending another CRCD class:
1) Would I benefit from RMP?
2) Would I benefit from CRM?
Prior to CRM, the only way to get the benefit of more training was to attend another CRCD, which plenty have done, or attend Combat Patrol, or both. Everyone has told me how much benefit they got from another CRCD, often because their head was less in their weapon and they were less handicapped by tunnel vision. They were more situationally aware. Continuation training will do that for you.