“Watch me shoot my foot off.”
How about you flip over, into the actual prone?
Since the topic of starting an MVT forum came up, I have been looking around at the ‘tactical/firearm’ forums that are out there.
It is not pretty.
The forums are simply money makers. They present one or two ‘in house’ experts and sell a lot of banner ads. The vital thing is that the forums exist to protect the rice bowls of the forum owners (usually some sort of tactical/firearms retailer) and the business of the associated trainers.
Well, that’s fair enough right? Everyone has to make a buck, and it’s business. Well, the problem arises with what they are selling, which is the ‘tacticool’ mainstream pseudo-tactical training, as discussed ad nauseam on this blog. It is snake oil salesman at work. The other side of this is that these trainers are so often closely tied into the whole LEO/SWAT meme, often being ex-SWAT themselves. These guys are not going to help civilians with real tactics, even if they know what they are, because that is not in their interest.
So really, these trainers and forums are just an extension of the current tyranny. If you want to learn real tactics, as a civilian, you won’t get it from these mainstream guys. This is also the reason why, whenever I make a foray into the mainstream forums to try and get the word out, I get shut down.
Bottom line: they are not putting out training for armed civilians, and they are not training Patriots to fight enemies foreign and domestic. If you want to be a fanboy, you can train in these pseudo- SWAT tactics, which will be of little use to you. The bad habits taught on these berm ranges are also likely to get you deader quicker.
Trainers myself are actually discussed and referred to on sites like lightfighter. The discussion is straight-up from a LEO perspective, viewing us as militia crazies. Madness.
Bottom line: It’s a scam. You are caught between state tyranny on one side, and tactical tyranny from these trainers on the other. Chances of getting any real tactical information or training? Minimal. These guys are all on team tyranny. They are training the SWAT teams! However if you are a ‘Never action guy” (NAG) and want to hang on the coat-tails of former action guys (FAGs), and be “operator as fuck” then by all means go and train like that.
Check out this video, from Pat Rogers, who is the top dog on the lightfighter forum. He is former marine and NYPD cop:
I am looking into starting a forum. I am determined to start one. The simple idea behind it will be that it is for armed civilians. It will not be a .mil or LEO forum. It will be there to discuss and develop tactics for use by the armed civilian, primarily when faced with an SHTF situation and enemies foreign and domestic. It will draw on, and start from, a premise that light infantry/irregular warfare tactics are a starting point.
So, you ask: What’s different about you, Max Velocity? Will you be making a buck? Selling your own version of tactics, not listening to the opinions of others?
Well, I hope not. I hope that the forum will be open. Clearly, it will be moderated to keep the obvious trolls out, but I don’t want the forum to shut down thought and opinion. I want TTPs and methods discussed. It will cost me a buck to start the forum, so I hope to make a buck or two back from increased traffic, book sales etc. But the key point is that this forum will not be for the dissemination of snake oil tactics. It will be for real combat proven tactics and discussion, for the use of armed civilians. I want to promote legitimate military trainers who are offering legitimate tactical training. I don’t want to create fanboys!
Above: Urban Prone? What’s wrong with ‘the prone’? Just get your body back behind cover. When I see people doing this under vehicles, I am amazed. How about getting into the prone and getting your body directly back behind the only bit of cover, which is the wheels! You couldn’t make this up.
On another related note, I was sent a dialogue from lightfighter where some guys were discussing me and also had photos up of me in my plate carrier. They were discussing gear, apparently I am “all ate up” and have no clue what I am doing, and then they moved on to my background. Someone said I was former SAS, then someone (accurately, which surprised me) said that I don’t claim that, but then they made reference to my mention of the role of 1 PARA in the SFSG, and me basically being a strap hanger; cool by association etc.
Well, this is interesting. I never make a claim to have served in the SAS. I do mention the role of 1 PARA as part of SFSG, but funnily enough, when I was in 1 PARA the SFSG had not yet been created and it was a more informal association between Paras/SAS. I have put out that I passed UKSF selection, which is true, which I put out there mainly for those who want to measure dicks – because UKSF selection is equivalent to CAG selection. So, put that in your pipe and smoke it. Other than that, I only claim to have been in the British Parachute Regiment, a private/government security contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan, and currently an NCO in the US Army Reserves.
Which leads me on to my point – what I said all that to say – this preoccupation with the qualifications of these ‘FAGs’ etc. I see some legitimate guys out there – Larry Vickers is listed as having served in SFOD-D on his site. However, if I was ever on the hunt for AIs, or train the trainers, or similar I would stay well clear of ego-based prima donna’s. I would take a good solid light infantry NCO any day to train light infantry tactics. Someone perhaps with a Ranger or otherwise light infantry background.
Now I digress:
When I think back to some of the awesome NCOs I knew in the Parachute Regiment, I know that I would want those guys, or people just like them. There is one in my mind right now, who I would bring on as a trainer in a heartbeat. He went on to be RSM of one of the PARA battalions. The thing is, this guy was an excellent soldier. Guess what? He attempted SAS selection as an accomplished platoon sergeant. He completed as far as the jungle phase of continuation training. He was returned to unit (RTU) – his face didn’t fit. He was an accomplished jungle soldier. Unfortunately, what the SF/SOF groupies don’t know, is that often there are problems with these special units; they recruit in their own image and they often don’t select the really strong candidates because it threatens them. They want to be able to mold the new people. That doesn’t mean the selection is not extremely hard (I know) and that there are not good people there (there are) but these special units are not the whole story. Don’t be dazzled by it.
Its interesting, but many of those who serve in the SAS are from non-infantry backgrounds. They become expert at some things and jack of all trades at others. That is precisely why SFSG was created, to formalize a relationship where Paras support SAS, in order to bring expertise at specialist tasks such as infantry support weapons (mortars/machine guns). For example, I was once the Battalion Anti-Armor Officer (2 PARA). My course for that qualification was three months long, focused on the MILAN system at the time. There is a two week SAS class on the MILAN, which basically allowed them to mount it on a vehicle and fire it. It does not cover anti-armor tactics and deployment etc. That is the difference – specialist versus jack of all trades.
If I was to do a company sized raid, I would far rather do it with a company of Paras rather than a squadron of SAS troopers. That would be the equivalent of using a Ranger company rather than Delta. It’s because that is precisely what Paras/Rangers do best. I will never forget the story a mortar officer told me about his mortar line. Para Reg mortars were lined up with SAS mortars. They were firing on the objective. First round, one of the SAS mortar bipods collapsed. That, right there, is one of the reasons the SFSG was created and formalized, although no-one will ever admit it (it was also formed to bring other organizations such as the SRR into one place under UKSF).
Anyway, I have digressed. The point: you need to look for quality real tactical training, and not settle for training from big names that does not fit the bill.
Avoid the tactical tyranny!